The Collected Works: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Tomorrow night, theaters will be packed with viewers ready to absorb another chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the form of Star Lord, Baby Groot, and The Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2. In preparation for the event, I thought it might be time to look back at my MCU list, originally published here in May of 2015, and add in the newbies while evaluating my previous rankings, as my feelings toward most films (most good ones, anyway) change and evolve over time and further viewings. Here’s what I came up with this time around. 

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14. Thor: The Dark World (2013) ORIGINAL RANK: 10/10
THEN: The only MCU movie that doesn’t reside in my massive Blu-Ray/DVD collection and the only entry I didn’t rewatch for the purpose of making this list. Thor is, perhaps, the toughest of the core Avenger crew to pull off on his own (more on this in a moment) but having seen it done correctly in the first film, I came out of Dark World incredibly disappointed and thoroughly unimpressed. This was the first (and to this point, only) time that the Marvel formula felt tired to me. The term “cash grab” doesn’t quite fit but Dark World is a relatively ugly film that feels flat and uninspired.
NOW: Dark World actually gets worse with age. This is still the massive outlier in the MCU. 

13. The Incredible Hulk (2008) ORIGINAL RANK: 9/10
THEN: Words/phrases I would use to describe The Incredible Hulk would include: “Not bad.” “Entertaining.” “Consistently good enough.” “Solid.” There’s really nothing especially good about this movie but there’s nothing wrong with it, either. In fact, there are several movies ranked about The Incredible Hulk that have significantly lower lows than this film does; it’s just that the highs never amount to all that much. Norton is good as Banner/Hulk but not irreplaceable (obviously) and the rest of the movie hums along at about the same level of quality. The Incredible Hulk is a perfectly reasonable, acceptable summer blockbuster.
NOW: I continue to enjoy this one for what it is but rarely do I think, “I’m really hankering for some Incredible Hulk action.” 

12. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) ORIGINAL RANK: N/A
Age of Ultron gets my vote as the most uneven film in the MCU. I love the introduction and the downtimes during which the characters simply exist in each other’s strange orbits, outside of the action. I enjoy James Spader’s embodiment of Ultron. And the action set pieces are grandiose. But the studio meddling is evident at times (this is the only film that exhibits a clash between director and studio) and the story gets convoluted as a result. Thor spends the entire movie being confused for reasons that are never completely evident on screen, Ultron’s motives are defined but not in any sort of interesting way, and of course, it all ends in yet another round of Iron Man Suit Overload. I was high on Age of Ultron after my initial viewing, less so on subsequent viewings. In fact, I had this movie higher on the list when I started working on it but talked myself down a couple notches. 

11. Ant-Man (2015) ORIGINAL RANK: N/A
I pine for what Ant-Man would’ve been in the hands of Edgar Wright. There are traces of it that bleed through the screen from time to time but ultimately, I think the film suffers from the change in direction. With respect to Peyton Reed, Wright has such a singular style, almost any director would’ve struggled to fit into his shoes. What I love about Ant-Man are the three principles: Paul Rudd, Michael Douglas, and Evangeline Lilly. Each of them latches on to their respective roles and brings the characters to life in highly enjoyable ways. To be clear, I like Ant-Man quite a bit; it’s a solid, B+ kind of movie. But I’m much more excited about its potential than anything within the movie itself. 

10. Iron Man 2 (2010) ORIGINAL RANK: 8/10
THEN
: I find it very easy to get sucked into Iron Man 2 and ignore its flaws. More than anything else, I just enjoy watching Robert Downey, Jr. be Robert Down--- er, I mean Tony Snark. This is Tony at his cockiest and that’s just a lot of fun to sit back and enjoy. The narrative is weak, however, and Favreau (whom I quite like as both a director and performer) misuses Sam Rockwell badly, leaving Iron Man 2 feeling a little thin. The movie could have fattened up on a more compelling villain but Mickey Rourke’s Ivan Vanko doesn’t quite fit the bill. On the whole, I think Iron Man 2 is a great “TNT on a Sunday afternoon” sort of movie but inferior to the rest of the Stark entries.
NOW: Seven years out from IM2’s debut, I think the most damning thing about it is it’s forgettability. Most of the plotting and happenings around Tony Stark are fine but altogether forgettable. 

9. Doctor Strange (2016) ORIGINAL RANK: N/A
This one has a chance to move up with future viewings. I’m high on Cumberbatch’s performance, I’m always happy to see Rachel McAdams (though I’m assuming they had to convince her that teleporting was the same thing as time travel in order for her to sign on), and it is easily the most visually compelling film in the MCU. In fact, I think Scott Derrickson’s directorial work here stands with the Russo’s on Winter Soldier and Whedon’s on Avengers as the best in the best in the franchise. Most of my complaints with Doctor Strange come down to the presence of yet another weak villain and the Doctor himself, who is somewhat dull and uninteresting, at least in his first MCU foray. 

8. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) ORIGINAL RANK: 7/10
THEN:
The old-school sentimentality and the sense of nostalgia within First Avenger work for me where others found it corny or pandering. You could argue that the degree of difficulty is lower on Captain America than it is on most of these other films and even I would agree that Chris Evans, while talented and incredibly well-cast, is the most replaceable actor in the MCU (again, besides Norton). But I would counter your argument by pointing out the list of Superman properties that have come and gone as an indicator of just how difficult it is, after all, to successfully convey the sort of old fashioned, deep-rooted American values that both characters espouse. Captain America does it incredibly well and also manages to bring along one of the better villains this franchise has to offer.
NOW: The only real downside to First Avenger for me is the strength of its descendants. This movie sets the tone for the Cap series beautifully. So beautifully, in fact, that the Russo brothers could come in and build upon the foundation to create the strongest standalone Avenger franchise in the MCU. As a result, I think First Avenger feels lesser than it would if the movies that followed were only “good” instead of “great.”

7. Thor (2011) ORIGINAL RANK: 5/10
THEN
: Thor should not work. The protagonist isn’t relatable, the Asgardian setting is too galactic, and the earth-bound story is too cliché. But through it all, Thor not only works, it’s also the only Marvel film that gets better with age and multiple viewings. It might not be my first choice for a rewatch but every time I do, I come away with a greater appreciation. Thor succeeds for two reasons: One, Chris Hemsworth is a bona fide movie star. And two, Kenneth Branagh is a fantastic director (Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit aside). Branagh deserves unending credit for making Thor even a remotely enjoyable film, let alone a very good one, and if you need proof of that, look no further than Thor: The Dark World.
NOW: I might be looking for an exit from the “Chris Hemsworth is a Movie Star” train but the remarkability of Thor being even decent if not full-on good is still key here. I grow more excited for Thor: Ragnarok by the day and a big part of that is knowing how well Thor can be used in the right hands. 

6. Iron Man 3 (2013) ORIGINAL RANK: 6/10
THEN
: I found this one to be the toughest in the series to place. I think the highs of Iron Man 3 are better than almost any other in the MCU. The movie is a blast, Robert Downey, Jr. is tremendous, Shane Black working in a franchise setting is a riot, and I think pound for pound, the airborne passenger rescue is probably the best sequence in the entire series of films. But then there’s that final act. “Bombastic” is a word I used to describe the third act after my first viewing but now I prefer, “Iron Man suit vomit.” It’s just too much and the battle between Stark and Guy Pearce’s villain, capped off by a semi-absurd ascension to power by Gwyneth Paltrow, is an enormous let down compared to the first two-thirds of the movie. I’ll watch Iron Man 3 a thousand more times in my lifetime and I think I’ll always be a little disappointed in its finish.
NOW: For comic nerds, it seems placing IM3 this high on the list is heresy and I admit to being less sure of this placement than I would like given my propensity for hardened opinions. The last 20 minutes is still a major issue but I so enjoy the first two acts, even the reveal of the villain that so many people seem to hate. 

5. Captain America: Civil War (2016) ORIGINAL RANK: N/A
I have a tough time slotting Civil War. There are vast chunks of the film that I love and I give the Russos immense credit for pulling off the feat of bringing together such a large and complicated story. Civil War’s central themes and the A-story work very well for me on repeat viewings. Stretches of the movie, however, play simultaneously as too long and too rushed, which leads me to the idea that there are just too many characters contained herein to pace the movie properly. (This doesn’t bode especially well for next year’s Infinity War.) When Civil War is moving and the action is flowing, it’s very good. It is in the moments of rest and lead up that the movie struggles a bit for me. 

4. Iron Man (2008) ORIGINAL RANK: 4/10
THEN
: The patriarch of the MCU still stands just as strong as it did when it burst on to the scene in 2008. In retrospect, Iron Man was the perfect feature to kickoff this whole crazy thing and of course Robert Downey, Jr. is the perfect leader for the movement. Iron Man is a completely different kind of superhero movie than anything we had seen previously and it set the tone for films to come. It is a highly enjoyable, quality piece of blockbuster filmmaking. The only thing that holds it back is the ho-hum villain (even by Marvel standards) and the fact that it started the, “Iron Man battles Iron Man suits!” trend. 
NOW: History has been rewritten a bit in the wake of how successful this universe has turned out to be but never forget that Disney/Marvel put a LOT on the line to make Iron Man. That they were able to pump out one of their most iconic, enduring films under such pressure is an achievement in and of itself. 

3. The Avengers (2012) ORIGINAL RANK: 2/10
THEN
: Were you nervous about whether or not Joss Whedon could pull this thing together before The Avengers debuted? I was. Not because I didn’t believe in Whedon or because I didn’t see the merits of the property but because the stakes were so stinking high. Marvel had been building toward this moment for so long and if it didn’t work, the previous films would have been cheapened in some way, despite how much I liked them all. I imagine the folks at Marvel/Disney would admit to the same anxiety if they were being honest. But it all worked out thanks to the remarkable talent both on and off the screen. The actors have excellent chemistry together and they’re all (okay, maybe not poor Jeremy Renner) able to work off each other quite well while staying in character, not a totally easy task in an ensemble like this. And Whedon blends the heroes together nearly seamlessly (again, poor Jeremy Renner) by playing up their respective strengths and weaknesses and mixing in an obligatory Whedon-y script that did wonders for this universe. Moreover, I think Avengers has the ONLY compelling villain in the MCU and Whedon deserves a ton of credit for building Loki up appropriately from his tepid run in Thor.
NOW: Whether that’s because of superhero overload or because we’ve seen the familiar notes from this movie played again and again through the subsequent MCU films, it feels like we’ve downgraded our appreciation for The Avengers. This is a shame, as the film holds up beautifully five years out and its degree of difficulty remains off the charts. 

2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) ORIGINAL RANK: 3/10
THEN
: Because, as mentioned previously, I’m a big fan of the original Captain America, I think I had a higher level of anticipation for The Winter Soldier than most. Even I was blown away. The Russo Brothers took a strong, moralistic character and gave him an edge without betraying his sense of right and wrong. It was, to my mind, a huge leap forward for the whole MCU in terms of tone and look. The action sequences are incredibly strong and the Russos were able to make Cap much more powerful (yet still realistically so) than he’d ever been before. Upon subsequent viewings, I’m not totally in love with the final act and I really wish Robert Redford could be replaced by someone who actually cares even a little. But these are small flaws. 
NOW: If Winter Soldier gets your vote for the best MCU film, I have zero complaints. The realism sets it apart from the rest of the films in this series, even Civil War. 

1. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) ORIGINAL RANK: 1/10
THEN
: I considered excluding Guardians from this conversation simply because it is obviously the least connected film within the MCU. It’s almost “MCU adjacent” rather than “MCU proper.” But since Marvel considers it part of the expanded universe, so will I. In my mind, there is almost nothing to quibble over when it comes to Guardians. Sure, a stronger villain would be nice (this is something Marvel seriously needs to work on) but this is not a story that’s begging for a compelling bad guy and the sheer enjoyableness of the mismatched main characters overshadows that shortcoming. I have very rarely had as much fun in a theater as I had with Guardians and it brings a level of freshness to this universe that I think it desperately needed. The beats may be the same as the average Marvel movie but the music is completely different and oh, what a blast it is to behold! 
NOW: Whenever I’m in the mood for a Marvel movie, Guardians remains my starting point. There’s nothing I don’t love about this movie even after what has to be a dozen or more viewings. It is blockbuster filmmaking at its finest, wrapped up in a Marvel-y ribbon.

MAD ABOUT MOVIES MARCH MADNESS MADNESS ROUND 2

The Round of 32 is in the books in our first annual Mad About Movies March Madness Madness Bracket Challenge (and Pro-Am) and what a great round it was! Thanks to everyone who voted. For the most part, the higher-seeded basketball movies protected their homecourt and advanced but the first round wasn’t without its fair share of upsets. Baseketball and The 6th Man triumphed as 5-seeds over the slightly favored 4-seeds, Basketball Diaries and The Other Dream Team respectively. Air Bud brought his A-game in an upset over Finding Forrester (sorry, Sean Connery). And in the biggest upset in Mad About Movies March Madness Madness history, Will Ferrell’s Semi-Pro, a disrespected 7-seed, pulled out a hard-fought victory over the 2-seed in the Hoyle Hustle Region, Love & Basketball. This was the tightest matchup of the first round, with Semi-Pro winning by only seven votes. So, if you’re a big Love & Basketball fan and you didn’t vote, this is squarely on you.

Voting is now live for the second round of the tournament and you’ll have only two days to cast your vote this time. So let’s have a look at the field.

(NOTE: If you’re super confused as to what exactly I’m writing about, I recommend you first listen to our Selection Sunday show here or on the podcast platform of your preference then run back through my summary of the first-round matchups here.)

THE SHORT SHORTS REGION
(#1) Hoosiers vs (#5) Baseketball

It has become quite clear that we seriously underestimated the fanbase Baseketball brings to the table. It’s been a few years but the last time I saw Baseketball I was underwhelmed; it doesn’t hold up so well. This should be an easy win for Hoosiers, often referenced as the greatest sports movie of all-time, but it turns out Baseketball fans travel well and this will be a barn burner.

(#2) Blue Chips vs (#3) Glory Road
In the first round, Blue Chips got a run for its money from Cinderella-darling Like Mike because I guess some people just want to watch the world burn. Like Mike is TERRIBLE. But I also think this struggle indicates the weakness of Blue Chips and Glory Road is primed for an upset.

THE SHUTTLESWORTH REGION
(#1) He Got Game vs (#4) Above the Rim

Tupac versus Denzel. This is what the Tournament is all about! He Got Game breezed through the first round though an inordinate number of people voted for Celtic Pride (ironically, I assume). Above the Rim had some competition from The Pistol but pulled away in the second half. This could be an interesting matchup but Vegas has strong faith in Jesus (Shuttlesworth).

(#2) Space Jam vs (#6) Air Bud
Millennials can’t be happy with this matchup this early in the Tournament. Both of these movies are darlings of the youth culture but as we know, only one can survive and advance. Michael Jordan once defeated a group of super powered, intergalactic Monstars so in my mind, his legacy takes a huge hit if he can’t beat a golden retriever.

THE HOYLE HUSTLE REGION
(#1) White Men Can’t Jump vs (#4) Eddie

White Men received the highest overall number of votes in round one. This means three things: One, obviously, this is an incredibly strong contender. Two, Thunderstruck is a terrible movie (duh). Three, more people voted for Juwanna Mann than Thunderstruck which is probably enough to get us all put on a government watch list. Eddie showed up and handled its business against Forget Paris but I think it’s in for a long day this time around.

(#3) Nowitzki: The Perfect Shot vs (#7) Semi-Pro
You guys. I love you all, you know that? Not only did Nowitzki win a sneaky-tough matchup with Sonicsgate, our German hero SOARED through, finishing as one of the five highest rated films in the first round. I like to think this is partly due to the strength of the film and partly because you all know how much we love Dirk and you want us to be happy. Well, I’m going to call on this good will again. We cannot let Semi-Pro win. This would be simply unacceptable. As incentive, please keep in mind that Richard has promised to allow you the listener to pick which film for which he will do a solo podcast episode if Nowitzki makes it through to the next round. So. I think that’s something we all need. Make it happen.

THE WINDY CITY REGION
(#1) Hoop Dreams vs (#5) The 6th Man

In hindsight, Hoop Dreams was the “weakest” of the 1-seeds and should’ve been in a tougher bracket (apologies to both He Got Game and Space Jam). The 6th Man has a bigger fanbase than expected and I’m concerned, as a Hoop Dreams fan, that it’s about to steamroll on to the next round. (Regardless of which movie wins, you should make time to see Hoop Dreams if you haven’t already. It’s important, although it doesn’t involve even one basketball-playing ghost.)

(#2) Teen Wolf vs (#3) Coach Carter
Both of these movies absolutely demolished their first-round competitors and as such, this has become perhaps the most interesting matchup of the day. Coach Carter is probably the better movie but again, Teen Wolf has Michael J. Fox…and a teen wolf. My brain says Coach Carter but my heart says Teen Wolf.

Mad About Movies March Madness Madness Bracket - Round 1

Welcome to the first annual Mad About Movies March Madness Madness! We could think of no better way to kick off our first bracket challenge than by asking you, the listeners, to join us in picking the best basketball movie of all-time. By now, you have no doubt listened to our Selection Sunday episode (if you haven’t, you can find that here or on the podcast platform of your preference) wherein we broke down the 32 applicable basketball movies and seeded the field. From there, I filled in the bracket in a manner befitting the NCAA Selection Committee (that is, I drank a lot of soda and threw darts at a poster board) and now we hand the results over to you. We’ll do this in stages in conjunction with the actual NCAA Tournament so this week, you can vote on the first round then we’ll move on to the Sweet Sixteen, Elite Eight, Final Four, etc. from there. Here’s a quick primer on the first-round matchups.

QUICK NOTE: For a movie to be considered for entrance into this highly prestigious event, at least one of us had to have seen said movie. This unfortunately meant the exclusion of such properties as The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh, Fastbreak, Heaven is a Playground, etc. Apologies to these films and their champions.

THE SHORT SHORTS REGION
(#1) Hoosiers vs (#8) Juwanna Mann

The prohibitive favorite of the tournament, Hoosiers faces a very weak challenger in the form of one of the most offensive and horribly unfunny movies in the history of film, basketball movie or other. If Juwanna Mann wins, I will kill the bracket immediately. You’ve been warned.

(#2) Blue Chips vs (#7) Like Mike
Vegas has decent odds on Like Mike upsetting Shaq and Nick Nolte based solely on recency bias. Blue Chips is not really a good movie but it is a good basketball movie, if that makes sense. Then again, Like Mike has a Dirk Nowitzki cameo and that can’t be underestimated.

(#3) Glory Road vs (#6) The Air Up There
Somewhere between Sweet Home Alabama and The Mysteries of Laura, Josh Lucas looked like he might be a solid B-List movie star in Glory Road, based on the amazing story of the 1979 UTEP basketball team. For its part, The Air Up There features Kevin Bacon trying to play basketball which is unintentionally hilarious.

(#4) The Basketball Diaries vs (#5) Baseketball
It’s always hard to call a 4-5 matchup an “upset” as they are by their very nature close in quality. But were I betting man, I’d throw some money at Baseketball’s upset chances. Steeeeevvvve Perry!

THE SHUTTLESWORTH REGION
(#1) He Got Game vs (#8) Celtic Pride

Someone already contacted us to let us know that Celtic Pride should be a one seed. I can only assume this person was actually involved in the production of Celtic Pride because Celtic Pride is TRASH. He Got Game is the only basketball movie to feature Denzel Washington and that should be enough to get it through the first round at least. (Also, Jesus Shuttlesworth is one of the all-time great character names and that’s worth a few votes.)

(#2) Space Jam vs (#7) High School Musical
Space Jam could’ve easily been a one seed in this tournament if not for some sloppy guard play down the stretch. (How in the world does the final score end up in the mid-70’s when one team features Michael Jordan and the other features a group of intergalactic superstars? Ridiculous!) Despite the late season stumbles, Space Jam enters the tournament as the odds-on favorite while High School Musical is not even a real movie.

(#3) Finding Forrester vs (#6) Air Bud
You can almost smell the upset. (Or maybe that’s the unbathed golden retriever.) Finding Forrester is the VASTLY superior film and features perhaps the only good Sean Connery performance of the 2000’s. But Air Bud features a golden retriever who can magically shoot hoops and apparently a lot of fans who don’t have kids so they haven’t had to watch this recently. A match up for the ages.

(#4) Above the Rim vs (#5) The Pistol
It’s been ages since I’ve seen either of these films but I enjoy a matchup of Tupac and Pistol Pete Maravich. I think Above the Rim wins but almost everyone my age has seen The Pistol at a school or church event a dozen times so maybe nostalgia takes over.

THE HOYLE HUSTLE REGION
(#1) White Men Can’t Jump vs (#8) Thunderstruck

White Men could easily be the number one overall seed in this tournament and Thunderstruck is only NOT the worst movie of the bunch because Juwanna Mann is so awful. You can’t ask much more from a movie than American Treasure Woody Harrelson, peak Wesley Snipes, and lighthearted cons. Not even Kevin Durant’s mother is voting for Thunderstruck.

(#2) Love and Basketball vs (#7) Semi-Pro
L&B should be a prohibitive favorite to move on in this round but Kent’s insistence that Semi-Pro has some funny bits has me worried. I’m counting on our female listeners and anyone who has ever watched Love and Basketball on a date to see us through here.

(#3) Nowitzki: The Perfect Shot vs (#6) Sonicsgate
In a battle of underseen documentaries, I have to believe that Dirk comes out on top. Also, you should know that if Sonicsgate somehow wins, I will personally see that all of your lives are ruined because Dirk Forever.

(#4) Eddie vs (#5) Forget Paris
Eddie is so much worse than Forget Paris as a movie but as a basketball movie, the former destroys the latter. Does Forget Paris feature John Salley in a prominent role? Didn’t think so. Does Forget Paris give Frank Langella leeway to do a really weird Texas (?) accent? Nope. Does Eddie seem increasingly likely to actually happen given James Dolan’s horrific handling of the Knicks over the last decade? YEP. Team Eddie.

THE WINDY CITY REGION
(#1) Hoop Dreams vs (#8) Rebound

Hoop Dreams would have a prominent place in the Greatest Documentaries of All-Time bracket. Rebound only made the list because we ran out of basketball movies. That’s all I need to say, right?

(#2) Teen Wolf vs (#7) Just Wright
There’s no more perplexing movie in this tournament than Teen Wolf. On the one hand, it is not a very good movie (I’m sorry, it isn’t). On the other, it does feature North American Treasure Michael J. Fox playing basketball AS A TEEN WOLF. Which side of this equation wins out?! I think it gets through Just Wright easily but it could be primed for an upset down the line.

(#3) Coach Carter vs (#6) O
This is what makes March Madness so great. Nowhere else would a powerhouse like Samuel L. Jackson face off against a weird mid-major Shakespearian adaptation like O. Coach Carter takes this one but the first half is a lot closer than anyone expects.

(#4) The Other Dream Team vs (#5) The 6th Man
This one hurts me because I love The Other Dream Team and I wish people would get out and see it. But no one has and thus, I think The 6th Man pulls out the upset. (Also, it should be noted that as a kid I rented The 6th Man at least a dozen times from my local Blockbuster.)